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    • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 07.09.2017 | 18:44
      Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

      Tak idem si ho stiahnuť, z OpenShotu som prešiel na Shotcut, ktorý sa dosť stabilizoval a z OpenShotu sa stal slimák a produkoval nepredvídateľné výsledky. Hlavný problém vidím v tom, že si autor OpenShotu forkol ffmpeg a ďalšie nejaké knižnice, čím sa to celé spomalilo. Prechod z GTK+ na QT pridal neintuitívne posúvanie sa vo videu. Vertikálny posuvník už nereaguje na myšku, čo je defaultné správanie sa QT prevzaté z Windejsi. V GTK+ to funguje od praveku intuitívne.

      Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
      • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 07.09.2017 | 19:19
        Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

        Tak je vidieť že na rýchlosti pridali, ale ešte je tam dosť práce. Verím, že na nadupanom stroji má človek iný pocit, ale ešte stále to nieje ono.

        Aj tak držím palce.

        Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
      • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 10.09.2017 | 13:13
        Avatar 7R7 Debian Stretch a Debian Sid  Používateľ

        Neviem o čom hovoríš ohľadom defaultného správania posuvníka v QT lebo mne v KDE posuvníky reagujú s myškou by default a nič som nenastavoval.

        • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 10.09.2017 | 13:45
          Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

          Otáčaj koliečkom nad spodným posuvníkom.

          Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
          • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 10.09.2017 | 18:28
            Avatar 7R7 Debian Stretch a Debian Sid  Používateľ

            Ak myslíš že nefunguje horizontálny posuvník kde je aj vertikálny mi ako chyba nepripadá, lebo ostatné horizontálne posuvníky bez blízkosti vertikálneho mi reagujú na otáčanie kolieska

            • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 10.09.2017 | 21:57
              Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

              Aby sme sa rozumeli, takže keď otáčas koliečkom na posúvniku dole v okne, tak sa posúvaš vľavo a vpravo?

              Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
              • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 10.09.2017 | 22:29
                Avatar 7R7 Debian Stretch a Debian Sid  Používateľ

                Ako som písal tam nie lebo tam je aj vertikálny posuvník, ale na iných horizontálnych posuvníkoch áno

                • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 10.09.2017 | 23:16
                  Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

                  Odstránil som traky aby zmizol zvislý posuvník a vodorovný proste nefunguje. Kde inde ti vodorovný posuvník funguje?

                  Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
                  • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 11.09.2017 | 09:08
                    Avatar 7R7 Debian Stretch a Debian Sid  Používateľ

                    Napríklad v open Shote nad tým pri posune úsekov ale aj v iných programoch ako napr. vo vivaldy pri zväčšovaní

                    • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 11.09.2017 | 14:22
                      Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

                      Mne to v QT nikdy nikde nefungovalo, ale keď budem doma ešte skúsim otestovať.

                      Jedna otázka, ako plynulo ti ide náhľad, napr. keď tam máš 2 obrazové stopy a jednu zvukovú? Mne to hrozne seká. V ShotCute mi to ide neskutočne rýchlo, pretože využíva HW NVidie a dokonca sa HW akcelerácia nedá ani vypnúť, takže s Nouveau ani nechodí. (tak možno to ide nejak uháčkovať, ale neskúšal som)

                      Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
                      • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 11.09.2017 | 21:34
                        Avatar 7R7 Debian Stretch a Debian Sid  Používateľ

                        Ja som to tak neskúšal a už som to aj vyhodil, nestrihám len kvôli tebe som si to stiahol

                        • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 12.09.2017 | 18:47
                          Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

                          Dík moc kámo. A defaultne v QT ti v aplikáciach chodí vodorovný posuvník s koliečkom doľava a doprava? V GTK to funguje od praveku, v QT mi to nechodilo nikde.

                          Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
                          • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 12.09.2017 | 19:02
                            Avatar 7R7 Debian Stretch a Debian Sid  Používateľ

                            Skúšal som to len vo vivaldim, mpv a tam to všade funguje

      • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 14.09.2017 | 09:38
        Avatar Miroslav Bendík Gentoo  Administrátor

        Problém ffmpegu je, že každou stotinkovou verziou dosť brutálne menia API. Nie každého baví každú chvíľu prepisovať kód.

        • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 14.09.2017 | 22:31
          Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor
          Problém ffmpegu je, že každou stotinkovou verziou dosť brutálne menia API

          Maybe. Nemajú nejakú medzi vrstvu, ktorá to udržuje medzi desatinkovými verziami? Meniace sa API fakt dokáže odradiť od vývoja.

          Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
          • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 17.09.2017 | 12:45
            Avatar Miroslav Bendík Gentoo  Administrátor

            Neviem o žiadnej rozumnej medzivrstve. V každom prípade narazil som na veľa knižníc ktoré používajú ffmpeg priamo a každou desatinkovou (občas aj stotinkovou) verziou sa rozbijú. Vo svete open source to nie je nič výnimočné, aj vývojári kernelu celkom kašlú na kompatibilitu a pretoo niektoré android ovládače znemožňujú prechod na vyššiu verziu androidu.

            • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 19.09.2017 | 14:46
              Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

              V slobodnom svete býva pravidlom vydávanie tzv. stabilných vydaní (1) a na ne už projekt naviazať ide. Potom stačí to API raz za rok prekopať.Ja netvrdím že je to ideálne, ale pokrok nezastavíš. Áno sú tu aj projekty ako Gnome s ktorím sa už fakt nedá nijak spolupracovať.

              1. Ak stabilné vydania neexistujú, dá sa začať s aktuálnou verziou a občas to API prekopať, keď chceme prejsť na vyššiu verziu. Stále to bude bezpečnejšie ako celý enviroment MS Win, tam si pomaly každý softvér nesie so sebou staré deravé knižnice.

              Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
              • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 02.10.2017 | 18:56
                Avatar Miroslav Bendík Gentoo  Administrátor

                Naviazať vydanie na niektorú konkrétnu verziu nie je úplne ideálne. Predstav si, že jeden program vyžaduje 20160912, druhý vyžaduje 20170206 a zrazu to hodíme na hlavu chudákovi, ktorý to má zabaliť do distribúcie. Ideálne je tu žiaľ bundlovanie knižnice.

                A ehm GNOME ma netrápi, ale GTK áno. Momentálne už je tak nepoužiteľné, že namiesto file open dialógu otváram rovno filemanager. Nechápem ako niekoho mohlo napadnúť vyhodenie typeahead z file dialógov.

                • RE: Nová verzia video editoru Open Shot 2.4.0 02.10.2017 | 21:55
                  Avatar bedňa LegacyIce-antiX  Administrátor

                  Tak zas dosť často bývajú pri projektoch uvedené závislostí, je pravda, že stabilné API by bodlo, ale ked z nejakého dôvodu nieje, tak čo už.

                  Myslel som tiež viac GTK ako GNOME, od trojky to ide celé do kytek.

                  Táto správa neobsahuje vírus, pretože nepoužívam MS Windows. http://kernelultras.org
    • RE: Nová verzia video editoru OpenShot 2.4.0 04.10.2017 | 23:32
      Avatar Brainwall Debian 9 Stretch KDE  Používateľ

      Skoda ze to ma stale problem s .mkv nahladom, zatial funkcne iba s .mp4 (hovorim za seba) mozno to niekomu facha ako ma ale osobne radsej uzivam KDEnlive.

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