S-VIDEO TV OUT

Sekcia: Hardware a Drivery 28.06.2008 | 15:57
Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
Zdravím Vás,

mám taký problém:) Na NTBK mám S-VIDEO TV Out a integrovanú grafickú kartu Intel. Už dva dni sa snažím sprevádzkovať ten konektor, ale stále mi to nejde. Mám Ubuntu 8.04. Snažím sa to robiť cez natstavenie obrazovky, ale tam nedokážem ovládať tento konektor. Výstup na externý monitor (tá klasická zásuvka) mi funguje - v pohode nabezhne ked pripojím klasický monitor, dokonca ani nič nemusím natstavovať, to platí aj pre data projektor. Len ten S-VIDEO neviem rozbehnúť.
Neviete čo s tým?:) Myslíte že ne Kubuntu by to šlo?
    • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 28.06.2008 | 16:35
      WlaSaTy   Návštevník
      Ano, aj na kubuntu by to islo. Ale prezrad nam, aku televiznu normu by ti mal pouzivat ten S-Video bez toho ze by si mu to nanutil?
      • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 28.06.2008 | 16:42
        Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
        PAL. Chcel by som to použiť ako výstup do klasického TV. Na pozeranie filmov atd.
        • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 28.06.2008 | 20:50
          WlaSaTy   Návštevník
          Ano, PAL-B/G. Takze uz asi vies preco automatika PnP nefunguje. Televizia cez S-Video alebo CYNCH nekomunikuje s pocitacom, len od neho prijima obraz. Uz si to skusil nanutit, teda zmenit konfigurak pre xwindows tak aby karta vysielala cez ten kabel v takom formate ako to vie pochopit televizor?
          • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 28.06.2008 | 23:01
            Grawp   Návštevník
            No ja si myslím že s formátom sa netreba trápiť. Väćšina TV si to dnes zistí sama a navyśe najlepšie je telku púśtať cez HDMI(alebo DVI) a ked neni HDMI alebo DVI tak potom cez klasický analóg RGB<-->RGB alebo ak na telke neni ani ten tak si spravit convertor RGB<--->SCART. Secky tri moznosti su oproti S-VIDEU neporovnatelne kvalitnejsie.
            • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 28.06.2008 | 23:36
              WlaSaTy   Návštevník
              Problem je v tom, ze nie vsetky televizory maju HDMI. Typnem si ze toto bude periodicky pripad ked studak nasiel na izbe telku a chce k nej pripojit notebook nech usetri za stolny prehravac.

              PS: Moj televizor nema dokonca ani automaticku detekciu typu obrazu.
              • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 29.06.2008 | 00:32
                Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
                No zámer si vystihol presne:) Len som ju nenašiel na izbe, ale je to klasická televízia čo mám v izbe už nejay ten rok. A čo sa týka HDMI, tak táto TV ju určite nemá:D. Je relatívne stará.
                Tá editácia; neviem čo presne myslíš, ale domnievam sa že to je asi toto http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/V%C3%BDstup%20na%20dva%20monitory skúšal som to, ale stále nič. A neviem či to pomôže, ale keď som ešte používal Vistu, tak to išlo na tomto istom NTBK aj s tou istou telkou, takže neviem či je problém v tej TV. Síce nebolo to tam tiež okamžité, ale chcel som len demonštrovať že TV bol v pohode:)
                • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 29.06.2008 | 01:19
                  WlaSaTy   Návštevník
                  Ta adresa ktoru si sem dal sa stava zbytocnou od 8.04, ja som myslul nastavenie TV Out, nie dual monitor. man intel. Ak by si s tym nevedel pohnut, tak sa ozvi.
                  • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 30.06.2008 | 00:09
                    Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
                    Dakujem. Snazim sa s tym teraz hrajkat, ale dostavam sa k inemu problemu - aj ten navod ktory si hodil ty, aj ine navody na internete ukazuju xorg ako obsiahly subor...ale pozri ako vyzera ten moj po instalaci: Je to normalne?

                    # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
                    #
                    # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
                    # values from the debconf database.
                    #
                    # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
                    # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
                    #
                    # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
                    # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
                    # package.
                    #
                    # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
                    # again, run the following command:
                    # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

                    Section "InputDevice"
                    Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
                    Driver "kbd"
                    Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
                    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
                    Option "XkbLayout" "us"
                    EndSection

                    Section "InputDevice"
                    Identifier "Configured Mouse"
                    Driver "mouse"
                    Option "CorePointer"
                    EndSection

                    Section "InputDevice"
                    Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
                    Driver "synaptics"
                    Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
                    Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
                    Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
                    Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0"
                    EndSection

                    Section "Device"
                    Identifier "Configured Video Device"
                    EndSection

                    Section "Monitor"
                    Identifier "Configured Monitor"
                    EndSection

                    Section "Screen"
                    Identifier "Default Screen"
                    Monitor "Configured Monitor"
                    Device "Configured Video Device"
                    EndSection

                    Section "ServerLayout"
                    Identifier "Default Layout"
                    Screen "Default Screen"
                    InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
                    EndSection
                    • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 30.06.2008 | 00:11
                      Avatar Marián Sova Ubuntu 10.10  Administrátor
                      Na ubuntu 8.04 nejako xorg.conf došahali. Takže u neho to je normálne.
                      Čo ťa nezabije, to ťa posilní | Leták na propagáciu jabbera v pdf | www.mikroprocesory.sk
                    • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 30.06.2008 | 00:12
                      Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
                      Jaj a ešte jeden zádrhel, cez grafické rozhranie - ked dám natstavenie rozlisenia atd. tak mi to dava ze ubuntu pouziva VESA driver. Pricom po zadani lspci mam jasne napisane toto:

                      00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
                      00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

                      a aj ked zmenim cez to natstavenie na intel driver, vzdy sa to vrati na tu vesa
                      • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 30.06.2008 | 00:20
                        WlaSaTy   Návštevník
                        Ano, je to normalne. Xwindows ma uz dlhsiu dobu autodetekciu a tak dokaze fungovat aj bez konfiguraku, popripade sprazdnym konfigurakom. Nechce sa Ti predsa len nakonfigurovat ze ma pouzit intel a aj aktivovat TV Out? Zial plug'n'play pre staru telku z principu fungovat nebude.

                        Inak, ako bolo cez vikend?
                        • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 30.06.2008 | 00:24
                          Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
                          No chcelo by sa mi to aj konfigurovat, keby som vedel ako...ten anglicky navod je pre mna dost komplikovany. Snazim sa teraz najst nejaku obdobu toho v CZ alebo SK, aby som tomu aj ja trochu pochopil:)
                          • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 30.06.2008 | 00:26
                            Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
                            http://forum.ubuntu.cz/index.php?topic=9685.0

                            skusal som toto, ale potom to cele padlo a musel som obnovovat povodny xserver
                            • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 30.06.2008 | 00:31
                              WlaSaTy   Návštevník
                              Pochopitelne, ovladac "i810" je zastaraly. Ten ovladac intel nepouzijes. Tak nic, maj sa.
    • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 01.07.2008 | 16:27
      Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
      Podla tohto natstavenie ide vystup, ale dost posahane. Vsetko ide aj 3D, ide aj S-VIDEO a aj display. Ale ma to niekolko chybiciek

      - Display na NTBK je ako obraz v obraze .... ako keby bola plocha roztiahnuta na cely display, ale ovladacie prvky len na casti / proste divne

      - vystup ktory je na televizore permanentne meni farbu a skace, ale zaujimave je, ze ta plocha ma uz normalne rozlozenie, nie take prehodenie, ako pisem vyssie.

      A este detail, ale to ak by neslo vyriesit, nic sa nedeje. To co sa zobrazuje, je obraz mojej plochy na ktorej robim. Ale zrejme by v Ubuntu nebolo mozne urobit samostatnu plochu...



      # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
      #
      # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
      # values from the debconf database.
      #
      # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
      # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
      #
      # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
      # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
      # package.
      #
      # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
      # again, run the following command:
      # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

      Section "Files"
      EndSection

      Section "InputDevice"
      Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
      Driver "kbd"
      Option "CoreKeyboard"
      Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
      Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
      Option "XkbLayout" "us"
      EndSection

      Section "InputDevice"
      Identifier "Configured Mouse"
      Driver "mouse"
      Option "CorePointer"
      Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
      Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
      Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
      Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
      EndSection

      Section "InputDevice"
      Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
      Driver "synaptics"
      Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
      Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
      Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
      Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0"
      EndSection

      Section "InputDevice"
      Driver "wacom"
      Identifier "stylus"
      Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
      Option "Type" "stylus"
      Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
      EndSection

      Section "InputDevice"
      Driver "wacom"
      Identifier "eraser"
      Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
      Option "Type" "eraser"
      Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
      EndSection

      Section "InputDevice"
      Driver "wacom"
      Identifier "cursor"
      Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
      Option "Type" "cursor"
      Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
      EndSection

      Section "Device"
      Identifier "Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
      Driver "intel"
      Screen 0
      BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
      EndSection

      Section "Device"
      Identifier "Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
      Driver "intel"
      Screen 1
      Option "MonitorLayout" "TV,LFP"
      BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
      Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
      Option "TVStandard" "PAL-D"
      Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TELEVIZIA"
      EndSection

      Section "Monitor"
      Identifier "Generic Monitor"
      Option "DPMS"
      EndSection

      Section "Monitor"
      Identifier "TELEVIZIA"
      HorizSync 30-50
      VertRefresh 60
      EndSection

      Section "Screen"
      Identifier "Default Screen"
      Device "Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
      Monitor "Generic Monitor"
      DefaultDepth 24
      SubSection "Display"
      Modes "1280x800"
      EndSubSection
      EndSection

      Section "Screen"
      Identifier "TV-OUT Screen"
      Device "Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
      Monitor "TELEVIZIA"
      DefaultDepth 24
      SubSection "Display"
      Depth 24
      Modes "800x600"
      EndSubSection
      EndSection

      Section "ServerLayout"
      Identifier "Default Layout"
      Screen 0 "Default Screen"
      Screen 1 "TV-OUT Screen"
      InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
      InputDevice "Configured Mouse"

      # Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
      # InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
      # InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
      # InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
      InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
      EndSection

      • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 01.07.2008 | 20:42
        WlaSaTy   Návštevník
        vyborne, takze sa uz pouzil novsi a podporovany ovladac "intel", teraz este nastavit rozmery obrazovky, sekcia monitor.
    • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 02.07.2008 | 13:34
      Avatar adam.valcek   Používateľ
      No nevadi nevyriesil som to, ale aj tak Vam dakujem.
      Pojdem na dualboot na XP, aby som si to mohol prepinat - zatial ma nic ine nenapada:)

      Ale fakt dakujem:)
      • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 02.07.2008 | 14:16
        WlaSaTy   Návštevník
        man 5 xorg.conf
        Section Monitor
        ...
        DisplaySize width height in milimeters
        ...
        End...

        ale ako myslis.
        • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 20.07.2008 | 01:23
          chalan   Návštevník
          mne to nejde vobec, tiez mam notas s intel chipsetom aj vga ale tvout mi nejde, skusal som konfig, pomozes mi s tym prosim?

          Section "Monitor"
          DisplaySize 261 163
          HorizSync 30-62
          Identifier "Monitor[0]"
          ModelName "TMDISPLAY LCD MONITOR"
          Option "DPMS"
          Option "PreferredMode" "1280x800"
          VendorName "LCD"
          VertRefresh 43-60
          UseModes "Modes[0]"
          EndSection

          Section "Monitor"
          DisplaySize 261 163
          HorizSync 30-62
          Identifier "Monitor[1]"
          ModelName "TMDISPLAY LCD MONITOR"
          Option "DPMS"
          Option "PreferredMode" "1280x800"
          VendorName "TV"
          VertRefresh 43-60
          # UseModes "Modes[0]"
          EndSection

          Section "Monitor"
          HorizSync 31-50
          Identifier "EXT"
          ModelName "1024X768@60HZ"
          Option "PreferredMode" "768x576"
          VendorName "--> VESA"
          VertRefresh 50-60
          EndSection

          Section "Modes"
          Identifier "Modes[0]"
          EndSection


          Section "Screen"
          DefaultDepth 24
          SubSection "Display"
          Depth 15
          Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
          EndSubSection
          SubSection "Display"
          Depth 16
          Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
          EndSubSection
          SubSection "Display"
          Depth 24
          Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
          EndSubSection
          SubSection "Display"
          Depth 8
          Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
          EndSubSection
          Device "Device[0]"
          Identifier "Screen[0]"
          Monitor "Monitor[0]"
          EndSection

          Section "Screen"
          Device "Device[1]"
          Identifier "Screen[1]"
          Monitor "Monitor[1]"
          EndSection

          Section "Device"
          BoardName "965 GM"
          BusID "0:2:0"
          Driver "intel"
          Identifier "Device[0]"
          Option "SaXDualHead"
          Option "monitor-LVDS" "Monitor[0]"
          Option "SaXDualMonitorVendor" "--> VESA"
          Option "SaXDualOrientation" "LeftOf"
          Option "SaXDualResolution" "768x576"
          Option "SaXDualMode" "Clone"
          Option "SaXDualHSync" "31-50"
          Option "SaXDualMonitorModel" "1024X768@60HZ"
          Option "SaXDualVSync" "50-60"
          Option "SaXExternal" "Identifier&EXT+DisplaySize&+VendorName&--> VESA+PreferredMode&768x576+HorizSync&31-50+ModelName&1024X768@60HZ+VertRefresh&50-60"
          Screen 0
          VendorName "Intel"
          EndSection

          Section "Device"
          BoardName "965 GM"
          BusID "0:2:0"
          Driver "intel"
          Identifier "Device[1]"
          Option "monitor-LVDS" "Monitor[1]"
          Option "MonitorLayout" "TV,LFP"
          Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
          Option "TVStandard" "PAL-D"
          Option "SaXDualResolution" "768x576"
          Option "SaXDualMode" "Clone"
          Screen 1
          VendorName "Intel"
          EndSection

          Section "ServerLayout"
          Identifier "Layout[all]"
          InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
          InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
          InputDevice "Mouse[3]" "SendCoreEvents"
          Option "Clone" "off"
          Option "Xinerama" "off"
          Screen 0 "Screen[0]"
          Screen 1 "Screen[1]"
          EndSection


          Section "DRI"
          Group "video"
          Mode 0660
          EndSection

          Section "Extensions"
          Option "Composite" "on"
          EndSection
          • Re: S-VIDEO TV OUT 20.07.2008 | 15:55
            WlaSaTy   Návštevník
            Tak tento konfigurak je zlozity mozno aj na mna, to ho vyrobil SaX?